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#13770 - 04/26/17 03:11 PM Not Cool Porsche Driver
V8vairmike Offline
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Claims I ran into him.


Edited by V8vairmike (04/26/17 03:12 PM)

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#13771 - 04/26/17 04:49 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: V8vairmike]
Cheese Head Offline
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He paid the price...Mikey walked away with a blemish.

The pooche driver had to be winched into the trailer and he got 6 months probation to boot. Sometimes egos have consequences!
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#13772 - 04/27/17 12:46 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: V8vairmike]
Doug Meis Offline
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That looks weird. It looks like the P-car driver was still going straight at contact but should have turned in by that time. As if he was trying to all the way drivers left before turning in - no matter that another car was already there...

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#13795 - 05/01/17 10:50 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: V8vairmike]
Speedturn Offline
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Who was driving at that time? Was it the father Charles O'Brien III or the son Charles O'Brien IV? They have been my main GTU competitors the last few years, with the son beating me soundly the last 2 Mittys.


Edited by Speedturn (05/02/17 09:58 AM)
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#13798 - 05/02/17 07:18 AM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: V8vairmike]
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I have no idea who was driving the Porsche.
After getting it home and seeing my car needs another visit to the frame machine I just put it outside and covered it up. Not a big Fan of The Porsche Driver !

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#13799 - 05/02/17 08:38 AM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: V8vairmike]
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Holy crap, Mike I think if you were not even there, he would have never made the corner he was so far off the line. This is why I don't go to the Mitty, lots of nice cars, many driven by total dumb asses.


Edited by Hap Waldrop (05/02/17 08:41 AM)
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#13800 - 05/02/17 09:31 AM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: Hap Waldrop]
Firebird Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hap Waldrop
This is why I don't go to the Mitty, lots of nice cars, many driven by total dumb asses.


When I saw what the Marquee make was this year I decided to skip it.
I expected a lot of people with more dollars than sense.

Personally, I'd like to see all "Pony Cars" as a feature, try and brings as many 60's Pony cars of all brands back out rather than a single make, and if possible make it a single run group for a change.

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#13801 - 05/02/17 09:36 AM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: Hap Waldrop]
dcb Offline
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I think that this sort of thing is the overwhelmingly biggest problem in vintage racing. The organizations hand out licenses like drugs, and many of the participants are totally unschooled and in many cases totally unaware of what race craft is all about. I know that the orgs have to do this or their entries would be even lower, but even at 8 tenths these guys are lethal.

What's difficult to separate is racing incidents versus incompetent incidents... and versus head-case incidents - you know, the guys that think demo derby style racing is heroic.

I hope that HSR had an in-depth interview with the Porsche driver to find out what that move was all about, 'cause if he knew you were there and felt that he was going to make a statement he should never be allowed on the race track again. If on the other hand he was simply unaware of your position on the track (which would be hard to believe in this specific instance), well sometimes that happens to even well schooled drivers. Either way I'm truly sorry for you Mike.

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#13804 - 05/02/17 01:29 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: V8vairmike]
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Normal people don't race. Most racers are sort of quirky to say the least. That said, the Porsche driver seemed to lack the situational awareness that the sport demands. Has nothing to do with what he was driving. Could have been worse. I don't know the driver, but I know who he is and I know that he was promptly reprimanded for this move with probation.


Edited by Racers Anonymous (05/02/17 01:30 PM)

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#13805 - 05/02/17 05:51 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: Racers Anonymous]
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Racers Anon,

I have to disagree with your basic premise. My experience is that racers are as normal a cross-section of humanity as any other group. Perhaps some are quirky ( a few come to mind) but I had those guys on my softball team too.

There are folks who simply don't have the temperament to compete. I don't know if this guy is one of those or not. The scenario reminds me a little of the Huffaker incident at last years runoffs, and I think we can all agree that he's not apt to have done that on purpose. Stuff happens sometimes that is just the confluence of a bunch of distractions. Usually it's harmless because no one is around, but sometimes it's painful.

My guess is that this guy had no idea that Mike was in position. Otherwise there is little excuse for what happened.

Dave Brown

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#13807 - 05/02/17 07:47 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: V8vairmike]
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Normal people are asswads. Being a racer is better.

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#13808 - 05/02/17 08:03 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: Racers Anonymous]
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No reciprocal 'Paddock Punching' after this 'Love Tap' ?
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Edited by zuzulo56 (05/02/17 08:22 PM)
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#13813 - 05/02/17 11:30 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: zuzulo56]
dcb Offline
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I like the ones where they punch each others helmet. They're either really smart or really dumb, you pick

Dave B

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#13817 - 05/03/17 10:09 AM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: V8vairmike]
JimG Offline
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Registered: 02/01/11
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Loc: Aurora, CO
The shot of Jim Hunt is a classic. You could almost see it coming, he was miffed when the marshall was pulling at him getting out of the car> JH just needed a few seconds to cool off after the shunt but the marshall persisted, came up behind him and grabbed him again. I certainly don't condone swinging at anyone but I understand how it can happen. I raced motocross until I was 42. In one of my last races I got taken out by a guy I was dicing with really close.
He gave me a cheap shot and I went down but so did he. My bike got tangled in a snow fence on a slope and I was standing on the side of the track when a corner worker came up and grabbed my jersey from behind and began pulling. I thought it was the other rider and I damn near broke his arm. He ended up next to my bike in the snow fence. The point of that being when a rider/driver has been taken out of a race and is full of weapons grade adrenaline, don't walk up from behind and grab him and start pulling...or don't poke the bear. Drivers/Riders usually don't like
people getting grabby right after a shunt.

Classic JH though,
jim g

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#13820 - 05/03/17 05:26 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: V8vairmike]
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LOL, I know at least two of the guys in that video personally smile

The closest I got to getting in a fight as road race was at a SCCA Road Atlanta National, we were running in a run group of GT1, GT2, GT3, GT4, and EP. This GT3 driver didn't make to the false grid before the 2 minute mark, so had to come off the grid dead last. he started to advance his position on the pace lap, if you didn't want to let him take over your spot, he would swerve his car at you, then go to the next row. I don't know what was crazier about the whole deal, him doing that, or the brain dead stewards, and corner workers not even calling it in, or acknowledging it. So we all ended up in impound for the first 4 position in each class. OK I am stilled pissed about this, so I've already made up my mind I was going to walk to this guy and see if I could knock his head completely off, I telling folks around what he did, and what I was going to do, and here is where it gets funny. The Firestone race tire dealer, a guy many SE racers knew, and were friends with, "Bear" Clounts, was standing there and when I tried to go get this guy, he just stood on my feet, now I am no small guy but Bear was a freaking monster, I couldn't move for shit, and he just stood on my feet until I cooled off. Thinking of that day still makes me laugh, I miss old Bear, he was was a hoot.


Edited by Hap Waldrop (05/05/17 08:59 AM)
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#13821 - 05/03/17 09:56 PM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: Hap Waldrop]
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Originally Posted By: Hap Waldrop
...a guy many SE racers knew, and were friends with, "Bear" Clounts, was standing there and when I tried to go get this guy, he just stood on my feet, now I am no small guy but Bear was a freaking monster, I couldn't move for shit, and just stood on my feet until I cooled off. Thinking of that day still makes me laugh, I miss old Bear, he was was a hoot.


'Happy',
Imposing...and looks like a nice guy to have shared a few cold ones with !
RIP (Dec. 8, 1951-Jun. 4, 2010)



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Edited by zuzulo56 (05/03/17 10:04 PM)
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#13824 - 05/04/17 08:56 AM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: zuzulo56]
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Registered: 01/16/11
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Loc: Florida
I miss Bear.

He helped me with so many "issues" when I had my shop in Columbia!

My biggest regret is that I saw him at the party at VIR the night before he passed, and was too busy to say "what's going on Bo?"

He was gone the next day
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#13827 - 05/05/17 12:00 AM Re: Not Cool Porsche Driver [Re: JFW]
zuzulo56 Offline
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Originally Posted By: JFW
I miss Bear.

He helped me with so many "issues" when I had my shop in Columbia!


Your 'aving used those quotation marks, hints at the gentleman perhaps doing 'collections' work, for past-due debts, for your business? (An honorable endeavor.)


BTW...After 'Nam (mid-60's), a bit of Skip Tracing (Tracking those who skipped-out on their loans) I did for a Chicago banking group.
"Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar!"
cool

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Edited by zuzulo56 (05/05/17 03:15 AM)
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