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#2148 - 11/08/11 06:44 PM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: hoffman900]
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Originally Posted By: hoffman900
Scary crash. Glad to hear the driver walked away.


Thanks but we can't view this video...it is private.
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#2156 - 11/09/11 07:14 PM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: JFW]
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Jack, I guess the poster took it down. It wasn't private when I posted it.

Group 3/4 Qualifying Race Watkins Glen. Glenn Stephens Lotus Eleven


Group 3/4 Sunday Race, Watkins Glen. Mike Unger Datsun 2000


Group 3/4 Sunday Race, Watkins Glen. Cliff Murray Porsche 356 Part 1


VIR Gold Cup, Skip Bryan BMW 2002


Group 2 Qualifying race, VIR Gold Cup, Alan Tosler MGB


edit: sorry Jack, not sure why the videos aren't being linked properly.

I fixed it: apparently your addresses were shortened for some reason. I changed them to the full Youtube address. JW


Edited by hoffman900 (11/09/11 08:11 PM)

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#2198 - 11/14/11 08:02 PM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: hoffman900]
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Originally Posted By: hoffman900
The end of this might create some discussion.



Yeah, Dick was driving his mirrors a trace in T6-T9 and not particularly good under braking at T1 and T5 and Denny did a really dumb move after Dick overshot T9 and Denny decided to drive around the outside of Dick in T10.

Dick didn't cede the position, but didn't "fade out" into Denny, but the fault lies in Denny turning into the corner like Dick wasn't event there, but Dick WAS THERE!

You can't expect people to "helicopter out of the way" when you decide you want the OTHER half of the road than the one you started the corner on.

Chickenshit racing, if you ask me...


Edited by Rules Geek (11/14/11 08:04 PM)
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#2199 - 11/14/11 09:12 PM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: ProCoach]
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I've seen this video a couple times at different sites and thought the exact same thing. You can't change your race line after you've entered the turn and expect other drivers to know what the dell you're thinking and move to avoid your poor discussion.
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#2200 - 11/14/11 10:00 PM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: JFW]
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Not that this makes it okay, but both Dick and Denny are probably two of the more experienced racers at any vintage weekend. Both have competed in a lot of races at high levels. I don't think Denny was crazy enough to think his 1100lb Super 7 was going to push a 2000lb Triumph off the track, all he had to do was hold his line and Dick would have had to lift at the the exit.

Dick's car having some differential difficulties didn't help. Watch the older video in this thread from 2008 and notice how much more committed he was able to be in T1-T2 and coming off a corner.

Also, both cars are at the opposite of the Group 3 spectrum. The Triumph is almost 900lbs heavier, but has 700cc more displacement. NJMP is a Lotus track, there is no question about that.


Edited by hoffman900 (11/14/11 11:32 PM)

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#2201 - 11/14/11 10:58 PM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: hoffman900]
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Great race from some Minis at the VRG Watkins Glen event.


KIC Qualifying Race at Road America from Paul Swanson's Porsche 356
Part 1

Part 2

Part 3


KIC Qualifying, Group 2, David Brown MG Midget


KIC Road America, Pat Lind, Huffaker Jensen Healey



Bob Leitzinger, Datsun 510 Sebring



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#3765 - 05/19/12 12:44 AM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: JFW]
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Both drivers go way back to the 1960s when they were both NE-Div National racers. Pretty intense race through traffic.


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#6077 - 06/23/13 10:03 PM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: JFW]
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Group 3 qualifying race from 2005. Had fuel system issues that couldn't be fixed at the track, but still trying for the first few laps.




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#6079 - 06/23/13 11:41 PM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: JFW]
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Feature race from the same weekend. Still suffering some fuel system issues, but trying until the end. Lost a pin in the oil pump at the end, unfortunately. Lots of back and forth with Randy Williams in the TR3


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#6516 - 08/23/13 04:56 PM Re: 2010 SCCA Runoffs [Re: hoffman900]
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Originally Posted By: hoffman900
The end of this might create some discussion. Triumph's fast lap was a 1.36.8, Super 7's 1.36.6. Difference in weight between both cars is close to 900lbs.




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